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I'm Arit Amana — Engineer at Forem/DEV Community and Founder of Our Time For Tech. I've also been a member of this Forem...
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Hi Arit, that was probably one of THE most inspiring interviews I've listened to in recent times.
I can identify with you on so many levels - despite that I'm a white male from Australia! I am a dad to six, I love tech and desperately wanna break into the dev scene, and I'm a late-comer (I'm 45).
I do have a couple of questions that you could help me with.
How do you pick a path? There are SO many pathways into dev, but how many of them are obscure paths leading to little demand? How many lead to high demand skills but with an over saturation of talent?
Like you, I never know if I'll get enough sleep the night before (our 3 year old is still clambering into our bed every night). But unlike you, I am working in my own graphic design business around 20-30 hours per week at nights.
So I'm wondering if cramming in a Bootcamp is viable. If you think it's the most direct way (especially for someone easily distracted by shiny new dev toys), do you have any recommendations where to start looking?
Oh, and in the interview, you said during the day while caring for your daughter, you were watching videos etc to absorb info. Can you recommend some of the sources which satisfied your hunger for knowledge?
Thank you so much for taking the time to be interviewed by Saron, and also for offering to answer our questions.
G'day mate! (in my best Aussie accent 😅)
Seriously, thank you for your kind words, Brett! I will answer your questions best I can.
Excellent question!
The short answer is: pick a path that will gain you in-demand skills , so you can better compete for jobs.
With the barriers to entering a dev career as low as they are, it has also led to higher numbers of early-career devs, which increases the competition for jobs seeking 0-2 years experience. Peruse jobs boards, identify companies that sound great to work for, and take note of the tech stacks they advertise. What comes up again and again? (psst! React!) That's where you want to focus your learning.
Hmmm, bootcamp. So sexy, right? Promises of a shiny six-figure income after 6 months of learning-to-code. No money due upfront, remote classes, the whole nine.
I'll keep this short: in my humble, bootcamp-educated opinion, the most consistently positive result of coding bootcamp is a (hopefully) comprehensive portfolio. That's it.
Now you mention working nights, 30 hours a week. If you could spare another 30-35 hours, then most of the bootcamps out there could work for you.
However, if you'd like something very self-paced, perhaps take a year to complete, I recommend LaunchSchool. You can also search Google for "self-paced coding bootcamp".
Oh this was all YouTube. I love the TraversyMedia channel. Also FreeCodeCamp's channel is great as well.
Good luck my friend! Hit me up @aritdeveloper on all platforms. I'll help any way I can.
Hi @aritdeveloper
Thanks for the golden advice! I knew you'd understand me ;)
As a busy parent, yep, an extra 30-35 hours per week might exist in theory, but even if it did, I doubt they'd be productive hours... so your suggestion of self-paced bootcamps would be more on the money in my situation.
LaunchSchool sounds great, though I checked and they're only for US-based learners. But I'm sure I could find something similar available to Australians if I dig a bit, and ask in the right forums.
I know there's a lot of talk about six-figure incomes, but that has never attracted me. I'd be happy enjoying a coding career on a waiter's income. But of course, happy to accept the tips :P
And thanks for putting me onto TraversyMedia. I've been through his CSS, Flexbox and Grid crash course videos in tandem with FreeCodeCamp to help consolidate what I was also learning there.
I really need to watch the Git crash course, cos I have no idea about that beast. I'm afraid Git requires one to be the careful, tidy, planning type. If so, there's another skillset I'll need to master :P
Thanks again,
Brett
Hi Arit! Great episode!
I'd love to know your thoughts on getting kids involved in coding at a young age. I'm not a mother (yet) but I've found that there are many different attitudes about exposing kids to coding early and often vs allowing them to find it naturally. All of these opinions are very interesting to me. If you don't mind sharing where you fall as a parent on the subject of kids and coding, I'd be fascinated 😊
Absolutely Gracie! My son (who's 9) got into coding after being inspired by my career transition. He loves it! He started off with Scratch, and is now building whole web apps with (basic) user authentication and all 😅
Coding has made my son more analytical in his thinking; also his tenacity at problem-solving at school has increased, because coding bugs are teaching him to slow down, talk through the code, the rubber-ducking technique, etc.
Getting kids into coding needn't be about whether that's what they'll do as a career, not at all. Coding exercises so many competencies and abilities that serve our children no matter what they end of doing.
Hi Arit,
Thanks for sending me the link.
A lot of what you said resonated with me. I am a mum looking to start a new career in tech so my questions are as follows:
You're welcome!
Answer to Question #1
I think the best way for moms to prepare to transition to tech is to streamline and automate as much of your home life as possible, so that you have as predictable study times as possible.
For the most part, work life and responsibilities are fixed. But home life is more tweakable.
Are your kids on a schedule? Can your partner or adult household members take more chores and responsibilities? Study time is a precious resource when learning to code, so do your best to create consistent time-blocks that are as uninterrupted as possible 🧡
Answer to Question #2
I have been working remotely for over a year now (with an actual remote company, not just due to pandemic) and I will say, if I needed to keep my kids with me during the workday, I probably wouldn't get much work done during the day 😅
Let me ask: would you have more childcare support in the evenings?
If yes, I would see if my job would be okay with some of my work hours being in the evening and into part of the night (like maybe 7pm to 12am or 1am). That way, I could just be a mother during the day, attend meetings on mute, respond to emails and messages, but not really do any deep work until I could have some support.
I would also have my kids take a nap (or dedicated quiet time if they are older) so I could make up some sleep during the day lol.
Welcome Arit! ;)
As an engineer, founder, and mother, Arit Amana exemplifies a multifaceted and dynamic approach to life. Balancing her career with her responsibilities at home, she seamlessly integrates her professional skills with her role as a nurturing parent. Her commitment to both her work and her family reflects the same dedication that Zach Bryan mom likely embodies—supportive, hardworking, and deeply invested in the success and well-being of her loved ones. Arit’s journey is a testament to the power of resilience and the importance of following one’s passions while cherishing family connections.
Woo hey Arit! So cool to see you doing an AMA :D
Your nonprofit sounds really cool! What's the most rewarding thing you see happening in your work?
Thanks Andy! Mentoring through Our Time For Tech is most rewarding when I see our fellows gain confidence and boldness over their Tech careers. 😍
Imposter syndrome is usually at a high for our early-career fellows, and they come in with self-doubt and insecurities about their tech skills.
As I work with our fellows, I try to dispel myths and demonstrate the realities of learning-to-code, and that the trajectory is anything BUT a smooth, upwards-sloping curve. 😅
Hi Arti! Your journey as an engineer, founder, and mother is so inspiring!
Balancing a career in tech with motherhood is no small feat, and it's refreshing to see someone share their experiences openly.
This AMA offers great insights for anyone juggling multiple roles or looking for motivation to pursue their goals. For those in the tech community or even those writing a mom blog, there’s so much to learn here. Again, thanks for sharing your story, Arit! 😊