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Discussion on: From Front Desk to Front End p.1

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Tauri StClaire

Thank you! The designs are from Skillcrush :) Some are exercises (some I customized), some are projects from design comps- really helps to have nice designs to work with so I can focus on my front end code!

That's cool that you have experience with back end! Do you have a fave language? {:

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Dennis Tobar

I use PHP / Javascript to do some interactions for send emails and others. I enjoy writing Python too in Wikipedia projects =).

The designs could be part of other platforms, but the talent is yours :)

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Tauri StClaire

Oh so you do some front end too with PHP!

Would you mind elaborating more on what you do with JS with your emails? And what you like to do with Python with Wikipedia? : D

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Dennis Tobar

PHP, for someone, is "older technology", because it is not fancier than JS. It's easy to learn both languages, but JS has many people following it. In JS, I read my email using IMAP (in node) to classify some emails (sorry, restricted code).

In Wikipedia, I have a python bot that helps normalize articles (i.e., HTML tags misplaced) and do some counter-vandalism in Spanish Wikipedia (I'm a Spanish native speaker, learning English in this community!)

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Tauri StClaire

I have only heard of PHP being used for Wordpress! Once again, I am bebe :hatching-chick: Your response prompted me to look more into PHP, and how cool! Now I am more intrigued! I may look into back end more throughout my career to go deeper with development, for now I am just learning about the usage and evolution of Ruby vs JS vs now PHP!

That is so cool that you contribute bots to Wiki and do cross-language programming work as well.

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Dennis Tobar

mmm... I say to newcomers, starter programmers, and others: be excellent in 1 area and know the others: Being a full-stack developer is hard because you must see a lot of technologies to be a good coder. I encourage you to investigate but not try to write perfect code in these languages because sometimes you could feel a little afraid about your understanding of technology. I prefer someone who knows where to find the answer to someone who (thinks) knows everything.

Are you curious about Wikimedia API or tools? Visit developer portal to see some ideas and how to user content and data from Wikipedia

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Tauri StClaire

Thank you! I love that advice from Kelsey Hightower as well! I would prefer to go deep rather than broad, but I'm still trying to figure out what that means in regards to starting as a front end developer. It seems natural to then investigate further the workings of the internet, network, and servers, but I'm sure diving deep with what JS and CSS can accomplish in front end development will keep me busy for a long time! PHP comes up as well with Wordpress, so I guess there's a lot!

Wow thank you for introducing me to Wikimedia! This is an arena I could really see myself contributing to!