Hi Robert and Anita,
You put a lot out there, where do I begin.
I have to smile because I look back to the real old days when your father talked about BBs and listserves. That was the only way to communicate with others on the net. The vast majority were small groups by today's std. And for the most part, one could actually be anonymous.
The advent of Facebook and all the ad-click companies showed the world that anonymity was dead. I am not sure I understand your argument about logging in to some site leading one to believe that it is more private or secure? Can you elaborate?
But I see that the search for privacy and smaller groups is a swing of the pendulum away from the indecent attack on privacy that most hi-tech companies were and are still doing.
However, I think there has always been a portion of people that want to attract as many hearts and minds(not to mention eyeballs) as possible, for good or bad. Conversely, there has been and will be a small section that wants smaller more intimate groups with more substantive conversations.
@mccurcio
, btw-- I saw on your CN and GH profiles that you're interested in data science? Anita and I are interested in DS too! This morning, I was actually just corresponding with Anita about different DS roles in the industry. Would love to get your take on it if you're keen 🙏! Specifically, are you interested in a data analyst role? Or more a data engineer or data scientist role?
Hi R,
Call me Matt ;))
Data Scientist/Analyst/Devops, yes, please.
I saw your note about forming a study group and was curious to talk about that too. I am a chameleon looking for a new home. Are you open to chat informally this weekend or next week?
As you know, if you follow me we can then chat privately and exchange digits or alphanumerics. lol
Hi Matt! Thanks for your comment! I totally agree-- I think the world is huge and there'll always be a place for all types of groups; definitely. To clarify, my take on it is just that moving forward, I think there's a kind of "fatigue" that has set in when it comes to public spaces. For example, I know Facebook likes to advertise itself as a "public square." And while a public square might be a fun place you visit every Saturday to hang out at the farmer's market or socialize, I don't think that's a space that actually fosters close and intimate connections. The vast majority of all FB connections are, I'm fairly certain, pretty shallow and weak relationships.
Personally (for me at least) Facebook is a great place for asynchronous communication. Like, my synagogue group can use FB to blast out announcements to all of its congregants and keep us up to date on the latest and greatest. But for more personal connections, I've begun increasingly turning to FB closed messaging groups or Google Hangouts closed messaging groups. That's what I meant by "more private and secure." Also, I like the idea of Reddit and FB "membership" groups where you need to be approved by some criteria in order to be admitted. Definitely not "secure" in any meaningful sense, but by including only a dedicated subset of interested people, I think that goes a long way towards building a healthy and productive community. (And weeding out trolls/bad actors!)
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Hi Robert and Anita,
You put a lot out there, where do I begin.
I have to smile because I look back to the real old days when your father talked about BBs and listserves. That was the only way to communicate with others on the net. The vast majority were small groups by today's std. And for the most part, one could actually be anonymous.
The advent of Facebook and all the ad-click companies showed the world that anonymity was dead. I am not sure I understand your argument about logging in to some site leading one to believe that it is more private or secure? Can you elaborate?
But I see that the search for privacy and smaller groups is a swing of the pendulum away from the indecent attack on privacy that most hi-tech companies were and are still doing.
However, I think there has always been a portion of people that want to attract as many hearts and minds(not to mention eyeballs) as possible, for good or bad. Conversely, there has been and will be a small section that wants smaller more intimate groups with more substantive conversations.
just my 2 cents :)
@mccurcio , btw-- I saw on your CN and GH profiles that you're interested in data science? Anita and I are interested in DS too! This morning, I was actually just corresponding with Anita about different DS roles in the industry. Would love to get your take on it if you're keen 🙏! Specifically, are you interested in a data analyst role? Or more a data engineer or data scientist role?
Hi R,
Call me Matt ;))
Data Scientist/Analyst/Devops, yes, please.
I saw your note about forming a study group and was curious to talk about that too. I am a chameleon looking for a new home. Are you open to chat informally this weekend or next week?
As you know, if you follow me we can then chat privately and exchange digits or alphanumerics. lol
Hi Matt! Thanks for your comment! I totally agree-- I think the world is huge and there'll always be a place for all types of groups; definitely. To clarify, my take on it is just that moving forward, I think there's a kind of "fatigue" that has set in when it comes to public spaces. For example, I know Facebook likes to advertise itself as a "public square." And while a public square might be a fun place you visit every Saturday to hang out at the farmer's market or socialize, I don't think that's a space that actually fosters close and intimate connections. The vast majority of all FB connections are, I'm fairly certain, pretty shallow and weak relationships.
Personally (for me at least) Facebook is a great place for asynchronous communication. Like, my synagogue group can use FB to blast out announcements to all of its congregants and keep us up to date on the latest and greatest. But for more personal connections, I've begun increasingly turning to FB closed messaging groups or Google Hangouts closed messaging groups. That's what I meant by "more private and secure." Also, I like the idea of Reddit and FB "membership" groups where you need to be approved by some criteria in order to be admitted. Definitely not "secure" in any meaningful sense, but by including only a dedicated subset of interested people, I think that goes a long way towards building a healthy and productive community. (And weeding out trolls/bad actors!)