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Hidde de Vries
Hidde de Vries

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[On-Demand Talk] It's the Markup That Matters

About This Talk

My talk is about how you can use front-end code to make your site more accessible to people with disabilities. You'll learn about how browsers talk to assistive technologies and how to build more accessible forms, tables and rich text content.

Takeaways

  1. Our apps need to be accessible
  2. Good markup (HTML) makes a huge difference, it gives us a lot of accessibility for free
  3. Always consider which names, roles and states your markup conveys

Slides

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🌈 Comment below and ask me questions — I might just answer them during my live speaker discussion!


About Hidde de Vries

I am freelance web developer and accessibility specialist, working with organizations like W3C, Mozilla and the Dutch government to create fast, usable and accessible experiences for their end users. As a volunteer, I was previously involved with Fronteers, the professional association and front-end conference in The Netherlands, organizing meet-ups, workshops and conferences. I blog on hidde.blog. You can find me on Twitter at @hdv.


This on-demand talk is part of CodeLand 2021 — a virtual conference brought to you by CodeNewbie & DEV on September 23 & 24, 2021.

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Camilla Silva

Hey Hidde, thank you for your talk.
I had my first contact with accessibility last year, when I need to dive in the WCAG docs to gather the accessibility requirements and create some prototype for our project.

Would you have indications of contents or courses to whom wants to specialize in accessibility?

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Hidde de Vries

Hi Camilla, the Education section of the Accessibility Project Resources page has a lot of pointers a11yproject.com/resources/#education

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Jenny Nickell

Accessibility is one thing I would like to improve about my code. I can't wait for this talk!

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Hidde de Vries

Yay, hope you like it!

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fizzybuzzybeezy

Thank you Hidde! I have mentioned this before, but I have relatives with hereditary failing vision.

Are there things in markup that can help with audio or "reading" systems? I am on the lookout for ideas of audio games they can play together.

Thanks for your talk.

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Hidde de Vries

In general, using the right markup enables screenreader software to expose web content best, so that's the best bet. Not sure if you're looking for anything more specific?

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fizzybuzzybeezy

Thank you, Hidde! No I'm just trying to keep my eyes open to what's available.

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Loreto E. Torres

@hidde , thank you for very informative presentation. 👍🏻.
Got a couple of questions:
How did you get to be focusing on accessibility?
Is accessibility always an intended feature of any product development?

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Hidde de Vries

I got into it because one of my first managers was into it, and it instantly clicked for me as a thing that just makes sense to do. Accessibility is always an intended feature, I would say.

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Christian New

I have so much to learn about implementing better accessibility. I work on products where most of our customers say they don't need accessibility and those products aren't publicly available. What's your opinion on including or adding accessibility to those products anyways, perhaps even after an initial release? @hidde

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Hidde de Vries

I'm there with you, and have also had customers say their products don't need accessibility. But statistically, this statement can't really be true for any product. According to WHO, 15-20% of people have a disability, and if they're not using your client's product, it may be because they can't as the product wasn't made accessible in the first place— this may be a chicken and egg situation. If it is software used in a workplace, lack of accessibility could be a problem if you when you hire people with disability. In other words, accessibility is important in all products, also non-public ones.

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MJ Torres • Edited

i loved this one! accessibility is one of the smallest but most complex details to work and focus on for me. i've always been interested in web dev but i haven't dived into it all the way during my first months of exploring development. lots of useful info, awesome discussion! :D

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Hidde de Vries

thank you, MJ!

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Richard Dewey Hammers

Working on UI is one of the hardest thing that I deal with! Thank you for this info

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Hidde de Vries

thanks for attending!

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ammpedro • Edited

This made me realize how important element Id/names are. Comments about names are often viewed as nitpicking in the projects I’ve been a part of because they aren’t customer facing. Accessibility changes this. Thank you for your talk!

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Hidde de Vries

Thanks for joining us!

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John Stewart

another fantastic talk. Working on Accessibility in my learning journey at the moment too. Simple things to people like myself that you just dont realise can be a barrier for others. Even temporarily

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Hidde de Vries

thank you, Stewart!

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pee-you

Will AOM also allow programmatic modifications to the Accessibility tree?

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Hidde de Vries

Maybe! This has not materialised just yet.

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Nad

Loved this talk! I wasn't aware of the accessibility tree, I'll be looking into that to learn more.

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Hidde de Vries

Yay! Let me know if you have end up having any questions!

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Sarah Rivera

Thank you for this talk! It was full of a lot of concrete and specific information and actions.

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Hidde de Vries

Thank you, Sarah!

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callumreid

I had not heard of ARIA before- thank you!

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fizzybuzzybeezy

That's a new one for me also!

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Hidde de Vries

thanks for attending! Note, in most cases HTML is preferred over ARIA, but in cases where HTML doesn't cut it, ARIA can help.

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Steve Nyholm

Wow, that was an information filled talk! Amazing. Thank you!!! I'm bookmarking this one.

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Hidde de Vries

thank you, Steve!

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austinxduong

Hidde, this is opening my eyes more while writing code. I love this 🤗

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Hidde de Vries

thanks for your comment, glad to hear!